# None of the installed services are accessible on the LAN by their .local addresses on windows 10
**URL:** https://community.start9.com/t/none-of-the-installed-services-are-accessible-on-the-lan-by-their-local-addresses-on-windows-10/260
**Category:** StartOS Support
**Tags:** how-to
**Created:** [March 25, 2023, 9:05am UTC](https://community.start9.com/t/none-of-the-installed-services-are-accessible-on-the-lan-by-their-local-addresses-on-windows-10/260 "2023-03-25T09:05:07Z")
**Posts on this page:** 14
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### Author:  [@dfkc](https://community.start9.com/u/dfkc)
#### Post date: [March 25, 2023, 9:05am UTC](https://community.start9.com/t/none-of-the-installed-services-are-accessible-on-the-lan-by-their-local-addresses-on-windows-10/260/1 "2023-03-25T09:05:07Z")
Cheers,
As the title says except that the embassys own .local address works fine and on a separate ubuntu desktop system everything is ok. So this really seems like a windows only issue. Anyone encountered this?
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### Author:  [@start9dave](https://community.start9.com/u/start9dave)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2023, 8:27pm UTC](https://community.start9.com/t/none-of-the-installed-services-are-accessible-on-the-lan-by-their-local-addresses-on-windows-10/260/2 "2023-03-26T20:27:58Z")
Please post general usage problems in the Troubleshooting section (I’m moving this thread there), and also search the forum to make sure your question has not already been answered (it has): [https://community.start9.com/t/able-to-access-embassy-control-panel-unable-to-access-services](https://community.start9.com/t/able-to-access-embassy-control-panel-unable-to-access-services)
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### Author:  [@dfkc](https://community.start9.com/u/dfkc)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2023, 3:18pm UTC](https://community.start9.com/t/none-of-the-installed-services-are-accessible-on-the-lan-by-their-local-addresses-on-windows-10/260/3 "2023-03-28T15:18:42Z")
Thanks for the info, looking through again the start9 guide and installing Bonjour did indeed solved this problem.
And sorry about the incorrect post, it was my bad. I’m a little rusty with posting on forums 🙂
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### Author:  [@start9dave](https://community.start9.com/u/start9dave)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2023, 6:23pm UTC](https://community.start9.com/t/none-of-the-installed-services-are-accessible-on-the-lan-by-their-local-addresses-on-windows-10/260/4 "2023-03-28T18:23:04Z")
No worries, glad you’re up and running!
Bonjour has been a big pain and steps are underway to eliminate it as a dependency for Windows users. Look for this in an upcoming update.
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### Author:  [@Har](https://community.start9.com/u/Har)
#### Post date: [May 25, 2023, 8:01am UTC](https://community.start9.com/t/none-of-the-installed-services-are-accessible-on-the-lan-by-their-local-addresses-on-windows-10/260/5 "2023-05-25T08:01:22Z")
Even with Bonjour installed I get “Gateway timeout” errors often when connecting form a Windows laptop via local LAN and htts. When I look into the server itself everyhing runs fine.
Also the pop-ups in the settings menu of apps always hang via https . I added the url of the server to the excude list for ad-blocking etc in my browsers, it does not help. I tried chrome and brave.
It is just a pain having to walk up to the server itself all the time to configure stuff.
I do hope this can be fixed soon 🥺
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### Author:  [@start9dave](https://community.start9.com/u/start9dave)
#### Post date: [May 25, 2023, 6:52pm UTC](https://community.start9.com/t/none-of-the-installed-services-are-accessible-on-the-lan-by-their-local-addresses-on-windows-10/260/6 "2023-05-25T18:52:20Z")
It sounds like you probably have to follow the guide to reinstall Bonjour. Have you tried from another machine (ideally not Windows)? That is a good test to be sure it is in fact a Windows issue.
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### Author:  [@Har](https://community.start9.com/u/Har)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2023, 11:39am UTC](https://community.start9.com/t/none-of-the-installed-services-are-accessible-on-the-lan-by-their-local-addresses-on-windows-10/260/7 "2023-05-28T11:39:02Z")
I did as you suggested with Bonjour. It did not seem to change anything. Then I looked up documentation for installing BTC core and LND and saw suggestions of forwarding ports (BTC code: 8333 and LND 10009, 9735) on the router. After I did that all is fine, even configuration menus and pop up work as they should (they never did).
Are there any negatives to forwaring thes ports? I did not see any mention of it in the Start9 texts or the fora.
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### Author:  [@start9dave](https://community.start9.com/u/start9dave)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2023, 8:38pm UTC](https://community.start9.com/t/none-of-the-installed-services-are-accessible-on-the-lan-by-their-local-addresses-on-windows-10/260/8 "2023-05-28T20:38:12Z")
This should not be necessary and is not recommended. If this truly solved your problem (and not something else, like a device reboot for example), then you may have a networking / tor issue in addition. This would be much faster to diagnose in instant message. Please reach out to the [Livechat](https://start9.com) at the bottom of our homepage. Techs are available during most Mountain timezone daylight hours.
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### Author:  [@Har](https://community.start9.com/u/Har)
#### Post date: [May 29, 2023, 7:38am UTC](https://community.start9.com/t/none-of-the-installed-services-are-accessible-on-the-lan-by-their-local-addresses-on-windows-10/260/9 "2023-05-29T07:38:43Z")
Hi Dave,
I tested and removed the port setting and did a reboot on my external machine and nothing changed; everything works as it should. You are right, it is not necessary. Thanks for helping.
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### Author:  [@start9dave](https://community.start9.com/u/start9dave)
#### Post date: [May 30, 2023, 5:25pm UTC](https://community.start9.com/t/none-of-the-installed-services-are-accessible-on-the-lan-by-their-local-addresses-on-windows-10/260/10 "2023-05-30T17:25:07Z")
My pleasure. If nothing else, this was a good exercise, the knowledge of which may assist you with advanced features / hacks in the future. We have a lot in store for 2024! Happy Hosting…
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### Author:  [@BTC](https://community.start9.com/u/BTC)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2023, 6:41pm UTC](https://community.start9.com/t/none-of-the-installed-services-are-accessible-on-the-lan-by-their-local-addresses-on-windows-10/260/11 "2023-12-16T18:41:23Z")
Hi, Im having the same problem not being able to connect via LAN in Brave and Firefox. Ive followed all the connecting instructions, got bonjour and trusted the ca.
The first day it worked on Brave, then it stopped working. Ive tried uninstalling it, restarting and reinstalling it and it wont connect. Do I need to do anything with bonjour?
I can still connect on a tor browser with my tor address so its not critical, just trying to figure it out. tnx
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### Author:  [@Rick](https://community.start9.com/u/Rick)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2023, 7:30pm UTC](https://community.start9.com/t/none-of-the-installed-services-are-accessible-on-the-lan-by-their-local-addresses-on-windows-10/260/12 "2023-12-16T19:30:15Z")
Did you try uninstalling and reinstalling Bonjour? Unfortunately this is often required.
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### Author:  [@BTC](https://community.start9.com/u/BTC)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2023, 10:35pm UTC](https://community.start9.com/t/none-of-the-installed-services-are-accessible-on-the-lan-by-their-local-addresses-on-windows-10/260/13 "2023-12-18T22:35:29Z")
Yes I uninstalled and reinstalled. Restarted the computer. Same issue.
LibreWolf says “Hmm. We’re having trouble finding that site. We can’t connect to the server at \_\_\_\_\_LAN address.”
Brave says “This site can’t be reached \_\_\_\_LAN address’s DNS address could not be found. Diagnosing the problem.”
So not sure what is the issue. It is a pain because that means I cant upload large files to my cloud over tor, far too slow and uploads fail. Apparently this will be fixed shortly by and update I read.
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### Author:  [@start9dave](https://community.start9.com/u/start9dave)
#### Post date: [December 19, 2023, 3:46pm UTC](https://community.start9.com/t/none-of-the-installed-services-are-accessible-on-the-lan-by-their-local-addresses-on-windows-10/260/14 "2023-12-19T15:46:31Z")
Is this the main UI .local, or service .locals? If it is _only_ service UIs, then the problem is bonjour, and you may need to do the rain dance again. Very annoying, I know. If it is the main UI, then this could be an issue at the router, which you could try to reboot. We understand that bonjour is the most annoying piece of software required for Windows users and as a result we will be eliminating the need for it in v0.3.6, but there is no ETA for that at this time.